Comments on: ..and what’s the deal with.. vinyl releases? http://www.anotherformofrelief.com/2007/01/12/and-whats-the-deal-with-vinyl-releases/ Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:36:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: ren http://www.anotherformofrelief.com/2007/01/12/and-whats-the-deal-with-vinyl-releases/#comment-454 ren Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:25:20 +0000 http://216.104.34.66/~anotjen0/?p=256#comment-454 Hey, we are that chaps that released the Johnny Foreigner single and will be releasing a new single (yip on 7" again) in march/april. For me vinyl singles are so much better than CD singles, they look and feel so much better and if the artwork is done well they become more of a art form rather than just a single (the next Johnny Foreigner single will have 3D artwork!) With being in a band as well to me the ultimate thing to have released would be a 7" single and I hope that the bands feel the same. Surprisingly making a vinyl single is not that difficult, yeah its not as easy as banging out a few CDRs on your home PC and selling them but if your are going to get them made professionaly then its just the same, its more expensive but there is just a thing about vinyl, plus in some cases a limited run of vinyl sells a lot better than CD's If you dont have a record player and you want a CD copy of a single I dont see a problem with the band burning you a copy or even once the single has sold out them allowing it to be downloaded for free, this obviously depends on the size the label but if they are relativly small then I dont see why not. ps sorry for the plugs! Hey, we are that chaps that released the Johnny Foreigner single and will be releasing a new single (yip on 7″ again) in march/april.
For me vinyl singles are so much better than CD singles, they look and feel so much better and if the artwork is done well they become more of a art form rather than just a single (the next Johnny Foreigner single will have 3D artwork!)
With being in a band as well to me the ultimate thing to have released would be a 7″ single and I hope that the bands feel the same.
Surprisingly making a vinyl single is not that difficult, yeah its not as easy as banging out a few CDRs on your home PC and selling them but if your are going to get them made professionaly then its just the same, its more expensive but there is just a thing about vinyl, plus in some cases a limited run of vinyl sells a lot better than CD’s
If you dont have a record player and you want a CD copy of a single I dont see a problem with the band burning you a copy or even once the single has sold out them allowing it to be downloaded for free, this obviously depends on the size the label but if they are relativly small then I dont see why not.
ps sorry for the plugs!

]]> By: Doug http://www.anotherformofrelief.com/2007/01/12/and-whats-the-deal-with-vinyl-releases/#comment-453 Doug Fri, 19 Jan 2007 12:10:36 +0000 http://216.104.34.66/~anotjen0/?p=256#comment-453 Aside from the financial/business label reasons for producing vinyl over CD for me it comes down to the fact that Vinyl looks and feels so sexy (ours is blue) and there's something lovely about its tactile nature that's lost with CDs. Also, they sound a lot better (honest, it's all in the Digital/analogue conversion). Also, if it has nice artwork you can stick it on your wall, which you wouldn't do with a CD. Since the broadband era begun I've changed my buying habits to buying Vinyl copies of things, then downloading the mp3s - then I have something I can listen to, and something I can hold, look at, make condensation on, use as a black mirror etc etc. the Possibilites are endless. For us, we wanted to have something out there that we were proud of so we went the whole hog and went down the Heavyweight, coloured route so it probably did end up costing more to produce cds. However, if we don't sell them we get to keep them, so... itunes is rubbish as well, I discovered emusic recently which has no DRM and higher quality mp3 encoding. our single will be out on others apart from itunes, don't know what exactly yet but it will be. from MONDAY. in the meantime, I say preorder the 7" from recordstore.co.uk Ta, Doug Sky Larkin x Aside from the financial/business label reasons for producing vinyl over CD for me it comes down to the fact that Vinyl looks and feels so sexy (ours is blue) and there’s something lovely about its tactile nature that’s lost with CDs. Also, they sound a lot better (honest, it’s all in the Digital/analogue conversion). Also, if it has nice artwork you can stick it on your wall, which you wouldn’t do with a CD.
Since the broadband era begun I’ve changed my buying habits to buying Vinyl copies of things, then downloading the mp3s - then I have something I can listen to, and something I can hold, look at, make condensation on, use as a black mirror etc etc. the Possibilites are endless.
For us, we wanted to have something out there that we were proud of so we went the whole hog and went down the Heavyweight, coloured route so it probably did end up costing more to produce cds. However, if we don’t sell them we get to keep them, so…
itunes is rubbish as well, I discovered emusic recently which has no DRM and higher quality mp3 encoding. our single will be out on others apart from itunes, don’t know what exactly yet but it will be. from MONDAY.
in the meantime, I say preorder the 7″ from recordstore.co.uk

Ta,
Doug Sky Larkin
x

]]> By: Simon http://www.anotherformofrelief.com/2007/01/12/and-whats-the-deal-with-vinyl-releases/#comment-452 Simon Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:29:15 +0000 http://216.104.34.66/~anotjen0/?p=256#comment-452 I know 2 Hirens. I know 2 Hirens.

]]> By: Eddie http://www.anotherformofrelief.com/2007/01/12/and-whats-the-deal-with-vinyl-releases/#comment-451 Eddie Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:41:09 +0000 http://216.104.34.66/~anotjen0/?p=256#comment-451 If you count people posting comments like this as "knowing", I actually know many more Simons. Only one Hiren though. If you count people posting comments like this as “knowing”, I actually know many more Simons.

Only one Hiren though.

]]> By: Hiren http://www.anotherformofrelief.com/2007/01/12/and-whats-the-deal-with-vinyl-releases/#comment-450 Hiren Mon, 15 Jan 2007 14:17:13 +0000 http://216.104.34.66/~anotjen0/?p=256#comment-450 my God you know two simons how scary is that!! my God you know two simons how scary is that!!

]]> By: Eddie http://www.anotherformofrelief.com/2007/01/12/and-whats-the-deal-with-vinyl-releases/#comment-449 Eddie Sun, 14 Jan 2007 23:17:09 +0000 http://216.104.34.66/~anotjen0/?p=256#comment-449 Simon (The Indelicate one, not the regular one) - Sorry it's taken so long for your post to appear here. For some reason my filter thought it was spam and sent it to the special section I rarely check. No idea why it did that. You must be rather bot like or something. Thank you for taking the time to explain the vinyl reasoning, and being in one the bands I brought up in the first place, I really can't argue with what you've said. It's interesting to hear how it all works from the artists point of view, and it does expose things I was unaware of. The main thing there that I find a little odd is the bit about radio stations and clubs demanding vinyl. That seems incredibly archaic, as I would have expected most, if not all, to have at least moved onto CD, even if they weren't entirely digital, by now. That's a very cool stance on the downloading thing too. I hadn't actually considered that you could burn them to CD and then rip them back off again, so that's handy to know for the future. If I'm honest, I just searched Singing Fish for We Hate The Kids and it popped right up, so I was reasonanbly happy. Glad to hear that the next one is on CD though, and I'll certainly be first in line to order one once they become available. Looking forward to seeing you guys at the Command House in a couple of weeks too! Thanks again. Simon (The Indelicate one, not the regular one) - Sorry it’s taken so long for your post to appear here. For some reason my filter thought it was spam and sent it to the special section I rarely check. No idea why it did that. You must be rather bot like or something.

Thank you for taking the time to explain the vinyl reasoning, and being in one the bands I brought up in the first place, I really can’t argue with what you’ve said. It’s interesting to hear how it all works from the artists point of view, and it does expose things I was unaware of.

The main thing there that I find a little odd is the bit about radio stations and clubs demanding vinyl. That seems incredibly archaic, as I would have expected most, if not all, to have at least moved onto CD, even if they weren’t entirely digital, by now.

That’s a very cool stance on the downloading thing too. I hadn’t actually considered that you could burn them to CD and then rip them back off again, so that’s handy to know for the future. If I’m honest, I just searched Singing Fish for We Hate The Kids and it popped right up, so I was reasonanbly happy.

Glad to hear that the next one is on CD though, and I’ll certainly be first in line to order one once they become available. Looking forward to seeing you guys at the Command House in a couple of weeks too!

Thanks again.

]]> By: Eddie http://www.anotherformofrelief.com/2007/01/12/and-whats-the-deal-with-vinyl-releases/#comment-448 Eddie Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:29:26 +0000 http://216.104.34.66/~anotjen0/?p=256#comment-448 Hiren - Garden State, vaguely. Robert - I have no problem with vinyl in itself, and if people want to buy their music on it, that's fine. The "core audience" thing is just created elitism. I'm not allowed to be part of that audience just because I don't own a record player? I'd happily buy music from these artists, but they (or their labels) are restricting my access to it. It all seems rather self-defeating to me. Hiren - Garden State, vaguely.

Robert - I have no problem with vinyl in itself, and if people want to buy their music on it, that’s fine. The “core audience” thing is just created elitism. I’m not allowed to be part of that audience just because I don’t own a record player? I’d happily buy music from these artists, but they (or their labels) are restricting my access to it. It all seems rather self-defeating to me.

]]> By: Robert Benson http://www.anotherformofrelief.com/2007/01/12/and-whats-the-deal-with-vinyl-releases/#comment-447 Robert Benson Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:36:06 +0000 http://216.104.34.66/~anotjen0/?p=256#comment-447 It may be that these artists want to reach their core audience, who are buying vinyl. Yes, vinyl is "coming back". Truth is, it never went away and probably never will. Learn why in my ebook: "The Fascinating Hobby Of Vinyl Record Collecting" which is available at my website: www.collectingvinylrecords.com It may be that these artists want to reach their core audience, who are buying vinyl. Yes, vinyl is “coming back”. Truth is, it never went away and probably never will. Learn why in my ebook:
“The Fascinating Hobby Of Vinyl Record Collecting” which is available at my website:
http://www.collectingvinylrecords.com

]]> By: Hiren http://www.anotherformofrelief.com/2007/01/12/and-whats-the-deal-with-vinyl-releases/#comment-446 Hiren Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:09:14 +0000 http://216.104.34.66/~anotjen0/?p=256#comment-446 Simon what film is that then? Simon what film is that then?

]]> By: Eddie http://www.anotherformofrelief.com/2007/01/12/and-whats-the-deal-with-vinyl-releases/#comment-445 Eddie Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:02:06 +0000 http://216.104.34.66/~anotjen0/?p=256#comment-445 Really? Even if you have no means to play said song? Really? Even if you have no means to play said song?

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